In this tenth episode, Jack talks with Charlie Cobb, the athletic director of Georgia State University. Charlie is a former college football player and has extensive experience in collegiate athletic administration along with now serving as a member on the College Football Playoff Committee. Jack and Charlie talk about life as a collegiate athletic director pre-COVID and leading during the COVID-19 pandemic. Listen to this episode as Charlie shares about leading at the collegiate level and leading well despite challenges faced such as the COVID-19 pandemic.